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personally I don't think Obamacare is an good solution but it's better than no reform at all which is what the republicans would prefer. I'd honestly be totally fine with single payer healthcare as long as there is a private option for those who want it. And don't act like we can't afford it, single payer = decreased costs for health care since it will no longer be "for profit" as well as reduced administrative costs. "Socialism" is a dirty word but when it's called "Medicare for all" the majority of people seem to be in favor of it.

You and I probably won't see eye to eye on this but as someone who has experienced the economic toll that an unforeseen illness can take on a family, I am completely in favor of single-payer health care. "Personal responsibility" and all that, but access to free or at the very least affordable health care ought to be a basic right in any civilized society, and in most of them, it is. Would you want a privatized police force with corporate interests? A fire department that only puts out fires for people that can afford it, or that would respond and then send you a bill for their services after you just had your fucking house burn down? No? Okay, what's the big difference between that and a family member getting cancer?

[maks]

but access to free or at the very least affordable health care ought to be a basic right in any civilized society

It already is in America. The majority of states have their own programs in place to provide medical care to people who can't afford it. Also, most major cities have free clinics.

It already is in America. The majority of states have their own programs in place to provide medical care to people who can't afford it. Also, most major cities have free clinics.

It's not about being able to afford it or not, it's about being able to afford it without rendering yourself destitute in the process. People shouldn't have to sacrifice their economic stability to ensure that they don't die from an unforeseen illness.

[maks]

It's not about being able to afford it or not, it's about being able to afford it without rendering yourself destitute in the process. People shouldn't have to sacrifice their economic stability to ensure that they don't die from an unforeseen illness.

In a perfect world they wouldn't have to, I just don't see why this is the government's responsibility. How many aspects of our life are we going to put them in charge of? What's next, federally mandated cell phones? After all, people shouldn't have to sacrifice their economic stability to ensure they're not murdered on the street because they had no way of calling 911, right?