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    australia would suck as a republic, the way the democracy works right now is fine with the attorney general, there is no good system drawn up for becoming a republic and until then the only "good" reason for aus to become a republic is "to become our own country" or "because monarchy sucks"... if we became a republic our democratic system would become worse off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marks98 View Post
    australia would suck as a republic, the way the democracy works right now is fine with the attorney general, there is no good system drawn up for becoming a republic and until then the only "good" reason for aus to become a republic is "to become our own country" or "because monarchy sucks"... if we became a republic our democratic system would become worse off.
    the queen serves literally no purpose in your government other than leeching money and attention. australia would be the same exact country without her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    the queen serves literally no purpose in your government other than leeching money and attention. australia would be the same exact country without her.
    australia actually doesnt pay any money for the queen except when shes visiting the country, which doesnt happen very often, and when she does studies have shown that she actually brings in more revenue for the state than she requires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gentleman Doli View Post
    australia actually doesnt pay any money for the queen except when shes visiting the country, which doesnt happen very often, and when she does studies have shown that she actually brings in more revenue for the state than she requires.
    then they'll have plenty left over to build a guillotine
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    the queen serves literally no purpose in your government other than leeching money and attention. australia would be the same exact country without her.
    also, she actually serves a huge purpose, read up on the 1975 Australian constitutional crisis and whitlam's dismissal by the governor general, the monarchy is literally the foundation of the state
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gentleman Doli View Post
    also, she actually serves a huge purpose, read up on the 1975 Australian constitutional crisis and whitlam's dismissal by the governor general, the monarchy is literally the foundation of the state
    yes she can gut the government at her leisure and is empowered to do so based on who's snatch she was born out of and/or who she fucked, and you're actually in here defending that system
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    yes she can gut the government at her leisure and is empowered to do so based on who's snatch she was born out of and/or who she fucked, and you're actually in here defending that system
    youre literally mouthing back the words that you were taught in kindergarten about how democracy = good and hereditary = bad while completely failing to see that the queen rules solely by the permission of the people over whom she is sovereign and at any time they could vote to remove her. further, the queen constitutionally can NOT gut the government at will - the governor-general can, yes, but the governor-general is actually appointed by the queen on the advice of the prime minister, which means in effect that it is the prime minister appointing the governor-general.

    constitutionally the british parliament could vote and say that all scots will be slaughtered effective tomorrow and yes i am defending that system because custom mandate and tradition dictates that they do not, nor does the queen ever get involved except in the most drastic of emergencies (read: hitler killing everyone)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gentleman Doli View Post
    the queen constitutionally can NOT gut the government at will - the governor-general can, yes, but the governor-general is actually appointed by the queen
    Are you even listening to yourself?
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    Are you even listening to yourself?
    the queen can not refuse the advice of the prime minister in appointing a governor-general. the prime minister, for all intents and purposes, appoints the governor-general
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    you dont even know what a governor general is you asshole
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    Quote Originally Posted by marks98 View Post
    you dont even know what a governor general is you asshole
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    no one has written good guidelines to our political system if it were to become a republic, that is what needs to be done first before having a bunch of anti monarchist hooligans trying to convince everyone in a referendum to vote for becoming a republic
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    maks is the only one of you that has a clue. Shut Barry you ingnoramus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marks98 View Post
    no one has written good guidelines to our political system if it were to become a republic, that is what needs to be done first before having a bunch of anti monarchist hooligans trying to convince everyone in a referendum to vote for becoming a republic
    australia actually voted down a referendum only 10 years ago and support for a republic has only gone down since then, similar things happened in st. vincent and the grenadines and tuvalu i think
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gentleman Doli View Post
    australia actually voted down a referendum only 10 years ago and support for a republic has only gone down since then, similar things happened in st. vincent and the grenadines and tuvalu i think
    that referendum was a failure before it was even started, most people know that the power the governor general holds over the prime minister is very important so they cant do bullshit like obama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marks98 View Post
    australia would suck as a republic, the way the democracy works right now is fine with the attorney general, there is no good system drawn up for becoming a republic and until then the only "good" reason for aus to become a republic is "to become our own country" or "because monarchy sucks"... if we became a republic our democratic system would become worse off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    okay marco why dont you drop the bomb and tell me why we would not have a jaded political system without the governor general
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