windows 8.1 still sucks

hey maks, i completely agree with you that win8 isnt 'simplified', it is the opposite.. what i meant was i think the authors of win8 were at least attempting to simplify things, but failed.

[maks]

a mouse offers precision and that, from a technical standpoint, means a mouse-based OS is less simple

it's not, though, because almost everything (except, hilariously enough, the two thins you tried to use as examples) takes extra steps or is hidden somewhere and it's not obvious how to find it. Windows 8 is going to force users to search around poking at corners or endlessly googling "where the fuck did they move that?". It's not going to lead to a new wave of casual-ass braindead know-nothing users, the only change will be that the existing ones are slightly more frustrated. The casual-ass braindead know-nothing users started showing up in 1995, and we call them "you".

whoa, i made this thread. i didnt even realize that. i made it before even giving it a go in a VM, which i did last night just to see. after experiencing a slew of 0x0000000A errors (i had to enable some memory related bullshit in my host CPU's bios to get win8.1 to work in a guest virtual machine, sigh) i finally got it to 'work' and i was going to make a video review but i got so depressed just looking at it i didnt bother.

i think the point at which i felt genuine human sympathy for the downfall of microsoft, the bordering of meaningless of life, and the crumbling of our society as a whole is when i opened up 'personalize' from right clicking in the desktop and noticed that windows 8 has a few default wallpapers for you to choose from, 6 pictures in the category "flowers"...i dont know why it just made me feel terrible. and then like, is microsoft not a multi BILLION dollar company? do they really not have a single fucking relevant up to speed contemporary graphic designer to produce a handful of wallpapers that aren't straight out of 2002? its a joke like nothing else, its no reason why when they try to sell win 8.1 all they do is show people like dragging the gigangic metro tiles back and forth like 'wow look how SNAPPY it is, wow' as if the experience of you opening a program, oh im sorry, "APP" somehow is an event worthy of being some sort of enjoyable game in and of itself.

[maks]

hey maks, i completely agree with you that win8 isnt 'simplified', it is the opposite.. what i meant was i think the authors of win8 were at least attempting to simplify things, but failed.

sort of. if they just wanted to simplify it they would have hardcore ripped off the iphone, ios is about as simple as you can get, you can even talk to the damn thing. Windows 8 is just an advertisement for Windows Mobile and Windows RT, they used their position in the desktop market to "get people used to" their daffy tiles so they'd be more inclined to go out and buy the surface or the new windows phone. The whole OS is essentially one big advertisement.

[Plug Drugs]

it's not, though, because almost everything (except, hilariously enough, the two thins you tried to use as examples) takes extra steps or is hidden somewhere and it's not obvious how to find it. Windows 8 is going to force users to search around poking at corners or endlessly googling "where the fuck did they move that?". It's not going to lead to a new wave of casual-ass braindead know-nothing users, the only change will be that the existing ones are slightly more frustrated. The casual-ass braindead know-nothing users started showing up in 1995, and we call them "you".

i agree with fanfare, they tried to simplify things but failed.
But the reason I even care is because if touch GUIs are dominant in the future, it will result in a dumbing down of your average computer user.

[Plug Drugs]

i wouldn't have learned anything about DOS if i didnt have to port forward my router and set up a static IP to host warcraft 3 games back in 2003
how many touch phones have a command line interface?

anyways what i'm saying is, putting users in an environment where they're more apt to use DOS is good for the computer world as a whole

cag

i wouldn't have learned anything about DOS if i didnt have to port forward my router and set up a static IP to host warcraft 3 games back in 2003
how many touch phones have a command line interface?

anyways what i'm saying is, putting users in an environment where they're more apt to use DOS is good for the computer world as a whole

;p;

sort of. if they just wanted to simplify it they would have hardcore ripped off the iphone, ios is about as simple as you can get, you can even talk to the damn thing. Windows 8 is just an advertisement for Windows Mobile and Windows RT, they used their position in the desktop market to "get people used to" their daffy tiles so they'd be more inclined to go out and buy the surface or the new windows phone. The whole OS is essentially one big advertisement.

lol

whoa, i made this thread. i didnt even realize that. i made it before even giving it a go in a VM, which i did last night just to see. after experiencing a slew of 0x0000000A errors (i had to enable some memory related bullshit in my host CPU's bios to get win8.1 to work in a guest virtual machine, sigh) i finally got it to 'work' and i was going to make a video review but i got so depressed just looking at it i didnt bother.

i think the point at which i felt genuine human sympathy for the downfall of microsoft, the bordering of meaningless of life, and the crumbling of our society as a whole is when i opened up 'personalize' from right clicking in the desktop and noticed that windows 8 has a few default wallpapers for you to choose from, 6 pictures in the category "flowers"...i dont know why it just made me feel terrible. and then like, is microsoft not a multi BILLION dollar company? do they really not have a single fucking relevant up to speed contemporary graphic designer to produce a handful of wallpapers that aren't straight out of 2002? its a joke like nothing else, its no reason why when they try to sell win 8.1 all they do is show people like dragging the gigangic metro tiles back and forth like 'wow look how SNAPPY it is, wow' as if the experience of you opening a program, oh im sorry, "APP" somehow is an event worthy of being some sort of enjoyable game in and of itself.

lol

it's not, though, because almost everything (except, hilariously enough, the two thins you tried to use as examples) takes extra steps or is hidden somewhere and it's not obvious how to find it. Windows 8 is going to force users to search around poking at corners or endlessly googling "where the fuck did they move that?". It's not going to lead to a new wave of casual-ass braindead know-nothing users, the only change will be that the existing ones are slightly more frustrated. The casual-ass braindead know-nothing users started showing up in 1995, and we call them "you".

lol

ok yall :) im headin out.

plug drugs, in a way, everything involves some sort of 'touch GUI'.. my fingers interact with keyboard and mouse to interact with an interface. arguing over which HID will make one 'dumber' is a moot point. there are plenty of more worrysome aspects of social media, consumption culture, etc that contribute to the dumbing down of a user.. a simplified GUI can only 'dumb down' the experience. I can still choose to act/create how I normally would given any set of input peripherals.

our attention spans are getting shorter and shorter.. that's the problem.

[Plug Drugs]

i think

[Plug Drugs]

plug drugs, in a way, everything involves some sort of 'touch GUI'.. my fingers interact with keyboard and mouse to interact with an interface. arguing over which HID will make one 'dumber' is a moot point. there are plenty of more worrysome aspects of social media, consumption culture, etc that contribute to the dumbing down of a user.. a simplified GUI can only 'dumb down' the experience. I can still choose to act/create how I normally would given any set of input peripherals.

our attention spans are getting shorter and shorter.. that's the problem.

if a person doesn't have a good understanding of what they're telling their computer to do, or what their computer is doing,
then the computer is taking the person for a ride, and not the other way around.

[Plug Drugs]

i think

[always stevey]

it's not, though, because almost everything (except, hilariously enough, the two thins you tried to use as examples) takes extra steps or is hidden somewhere and it's not obvious how to find it. Windows 8 is going to force users to search around poking at corners or endlessly googling "where the fuck did they move that?". It's not going to lead to a new wave of casual-ass braindead know-nothing users, the only change will be that the existing ones are slightly more frustrated. The casual-ass braindead know-nothing users started showing up in 1995, and we call them "you".

[Plug Drugs]

ah the spectators think marks is the funny guy;
at what point did i disagree with anything he said that was true?

[Plug Drugs]

windows is what we've got; if Apple was dominant, it would lead to a dumbing down of users
so either way:
- if windows dies from this, we lose
- if windows wins from this, we lose

Windows 8 is bad for the computer world all around

[maks]

how many touch phones have a command line interface?

every single android

[maks]

ah the spectators think marks is the funny guy;
at what point did i disagree with anything he said that was true?

everything I've said is true

[Plug Drugs]

its like microsoft said "awww fuck it, we're so big and our market influence is so huge, let's just crush them"

[always stevey]

You just fucking complicate the most stupid things for the sake of appearing intelligent to everyone else. Standard psuedo-intellectual.

[Plug Drugs]

everything I've said is true

everything i've said is true

[Plug Drugs]

You just fucking complicate the most stupid things for the sake of appearing intelligent to everyone else. Standard psuedo-intellectual.

or do i just simplify things?

[always stevey]

I'll simplify it for you: you're an idiot.

[maks]

everything i've said is true

nothing you've said is true and I've successfully proven it all wrong.

[Plug Drugs]

every single android

really? I havent messed around with too many smart phones, but i have an android with a broken screen that i only got to use for 3 days, and the new screen is coming in tomorrow

[Plug Drugs]

nothing you've said is true and I've successfully proven it all wrong.

no you didn't;
contrary to what you believe, finding control panel is the most counter-intuitive aspect of windows 8, and since casual users are only going to do what is immediately conveyable to them, its going to dumb them down.
Checkmate. Fuck off

[Genital Doli]

If you postid in this thread on the last page and ur name isnt marks or fanfare get out forever lol