windows 8.1 still sucks

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so in other words they'll be just like you, they won't learn anything that they can't do via clicking on the pretty pictures that are right in front of their face

Like I said earlier, I can use DOS when I have to or want to

how is this any different than what I've been saying throughout this whole conversation? I never said they weren't stupid and/or computer illiterate, I have said over and over again you are exactly as stupid and computer illiterate as they are and everything you're saying is reinforcing that

And I have said this again and again: If you can agree that Windows 8 is a dumber interface than Windows 7, and can agree that using the GUI is going to distance people from knowing more about their computer, then Windows 8 is going to increase that gap and breed more GUI-dependent users

[maks]

Like I said earlier, I can use DOS when I have to or want to

I'd believe that if you had any fucking clue how to use it.

Doesn't sound much different than
"I can use Windows 8 in desktop mode when I have to or want to"

And I have said this again and again: If you can agree that Windows 8 is a dumber interface than Windows 7, and can agree that using the GUI is going to distance people from knowing more about their computer, then Windows 8 is going to increase that gap and breed more GUI-dependent users

No it's not, we're still going to have the same ratio of dumbasses who don't know what the hell they're doing and you're still going to be one of them

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I'd believe that if you had any fucking clue how to use it.

Doesn't sound much different than
"I can use Windows 8 in desktop mode when I have to or want to"



No it's not, we're still going to have the same ratio of dumbasses who don't know what the hell they're doing and you're still going to be one of them

Marks says "I know the magic passwords, na na na-boo boo, you-u do-on't"
it'd be funny if Marks had a nightmare where he was in DOS but all the symbols of everything were in chinese and so was the keyboard, and someone was there going "whatsa matta?? too dependent on a GUI?"

Like I said earlier, give me a DOS manual and a dictionary and I can do anything in DOS that you can, granted it will take me longer to get in the groove, simply because you have more experience with it, but I could still catch up.

[maks]

Marks says "I know the magic passwords, na na na-boo boo, you-u do-on't"

So exactly what you were saying about Windows 8 users until I called you on it

it'd be funny if Marks had a nightmare where he was in DOS but all the symbols of everything were in chinese and so was the keyboard, and someone was there going "whatsa matta?? too dependent on a GUI?"

the CLI is language independent slick

Like I said earlier, give me a DOS manual and a dictionary and I can do anything in DOS that you can, granted it will take me longer to get in the groove, simply because you have more experience with it, but I could still catch up.

You have neither the inclination nor the ability to learn DOS, if you were the power user you like to pretend that you are you'd already know it. I'll bet you don't even know how to add a snap-in to the MMC.

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So exactly what you were saying about Windows 8 users until I called you on it

Not at all; Microsoft is stacking the cards against those users.

the CLI is language independent slick

Keep telling yourself that.
First of all, there's more than one way to skin a cat. Second of all, if someone changed all the characters to random Chinese symbols, rearranged all the keys on the keyboard which would also be in chinese, then you'd be completely lost and you know it.

You have neither the inclination nor the ability to learn DOS, if you were the power user you like to pretend that you are you'd already know it. I'll bet you don't even know how to add a snap-in to the MMC.

When I want to or have to, I can learn it to the extent I need to to get it to do what I need it to do. If I can use it to my benefit, then that's all that counts

[maks]

First of all, there's more than one way to skin a cat.

There really isn't, there's a ton of shit that can only be done via DOS or powershell and if you don't know either of those things you've obviously never done them

you're a typical home user who knows how to do incredibly basic things. there's nothing wrong with that, but it does mean you should keep your fucking mouth shut when it comes to technical stuff and you have no place criticizing people who only know slightly less than you do.

[Plug Drugs]

There really isn't, there's a ton of shit that can only be done via DOS or powershell and if you don't know either of those things you've obviously never done them

I'm saying the semantics of the CLI itself could be different if they were designed differently.

you're a typical home user who knows how to do incredibly basic things. there's nothing wrong with that, but it does mean you should keep your fucking mouth shut when it comes to technical stuff and you have no place criticizing people who only know slightly less than you do.

Everything in DOS is incredibly basic; why bother learning it unless I'm using it for something. As an example, I had to set up a static IP to host games, I figured out how to do that with written instructions.

Also, I am not criticizing those people beneath me, rather I am defending them; I want it to be as easy as possible for those people to be able to learn about computers so they do become smarter about computers - that can't happen if there's some leech stacking the cards against them.