Bush was horrible, but Gore would have been worse

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Doesn't that only chart back <100,000 years?

Also, do you think the readings could be wrong or swayed by agenda? Like, could our means of measuring CO2 levels historically be off, such that modern day CO2 levels seem to be exploding off the chart compared to the CO2 level increases of the past, when really its just because our measurements are off?

400,000 years
the ice cores contain air, the air contains air, samples of both are analyzed the same way so that any scientific error will be proportionally rather than relative

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400,000 years
the ice cores contain air, the air contains air, samples of both are analyzed the same way so that any scientific error will be proportionally rather than relative

Hmm well I don't know honestly, but purely from using logic, we could suspect that analyzing an ice core compared to our current atmosphere might be like apples and oranges, the environment of an ice core might be subject to variables we aren't even aware of yet.

And 400,000 years isn't that long really, I think our planet is resilient enough to just shake it off.

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the environment of an ice core might be subject to variables we aren't even aware of yet.

interesting... well, the only difference is the ice...
and we know from modern chemistry that when it comes to solids with thermodynamically-important imperfections, like ice, the molecules periodically (though rarely) liquefy and then immediately recrystallize, making the case that tiny amounts of CO2 could possibly dissolve from a gas mixture into a contact layer of water ice, and then slowly diffuse through the interior of the crystal lattice. however, the amount would be a tiny fraction of the CO2 concentration in trapped air. and if this was really happening, then the CO2 levels in the trapped air would decrease vs the increasing age of the sampled ice - but the relationship between sample age and CO2 concentration is almost perfectly harmonic.

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I guess you could view guys like Stalin as objectively bad though; but when you think about it, western governments are pretty terrible too just from their indifference to a problem.
I bring it up a lot, but so many people die from the medical system because they aren't aware that they're the guinea pigs for the drugs they're taking. It's like clockwork; see a commercial for a new drug, six months later see a commercial for legal help to sue the makers of that drug for its unforseen consequences.
We're almost worse than guys like Josef Mengele of the SS, because we go to great lengths to cover up what we're actually doing.
The truth is, we don't know what a great many of drugs do. A pharmaceutical company essentially bribes the FDA to let it through, and the company crosses its fingers.

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A pharmaceutical company essentially bribes the FDA to let it through, and the company crosses its fingers.

i'll grant you this. the fda are crooks, so are the usda, doi and many other federal bodies
but when it comes down to it, the individuals responsible are just regular people, albeit with a higher-than-average inclination towards exploitation. just imagine how crooked and gamed the system would be if there was no regulation whatsoever...

the solution is to regulate the regulators, by filtering out special interests from the system of checks and balances

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I think what it boils down to is not knowing; I can't identify a certain feeling my brain is experiencing, and think I'm overdosing or having a bad drug reaction or a seizure or something or whatever

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like, almost all neurophysical sensation seems to fall into one of several categories:
- glutamate
- GABAergic
- dopaminergic (which is closely tied in with norepinephrine, which is closely tied in with epinephrine)
- serotonergic (which has perhaps the widest profile of psychological effects)
- endorphin (closely tied in with dopaminergic)
- cholingergic (basically the system which manages all the mundane sensationless affairs of the brain, like our working short term memory, which is why when this system is fucked with it can produce intense delerium [anticholinergics] or obsessive association [pro-cholinergic, like with nicotine and tobacco])

anyways, knowing all that shit and starting to see the limits of your own brain can kind of mess with you in a bad way.. I'd just feel overly sensitive to all mental sensations and sometimes couldn't understand what I was feeling, think I was dying or having a seizure or overdosing, or something, and it was always just a panic attack. But something was definitely fucked up with my neurochemistry; I don't get them much anymore (going through a big alcohol phase for a few years seemed to really dull my brain down and seemed to get rid of panic attacks actually)