Quote Originally Posted by Cody View Post
all those places cost fuckloads to live in because of all the handout programs for nigmigrants just a simple peek at the tax rates shows the problem immediately
Oregon is a more a libertarian than liberal state and it's handouts aren't any better than the south. If any thing, it is worse because a two year degree can cost $10K compared to $2.5K in California. Portland costs a bit despite a lock of a corporate presence because of mild climate and a trendy mecca for boomer feminists, Gen-Xer outdoor lifestyle trendies, and Millennial hipsters.