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    Riddle me this, pluggy, lmao what kind of theories would Einstein have about you shoving drugs in your ass?
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    alcohol consumption poses huge risks that extend beyond any protective effect moderate drinking might have on the cardiovascular system. that u actually think mixing an amphetamine and alcohol together has some sort of magical beneficial effect shows how big of a moron you are, you are NOT suposed to take amphetamines with alcohol period, the end. thats a great way to harm urself
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonman View Post
    when im on speed, drinking alcohol can alleviate the body load, lower my high heart rate, and virtually eliminate the stimulant comedown/crash, as long as i'm drinking lots of water and staying hydrated as well. That's all the proof i need that alcohol is healthy for you. I'm a huge proponent of poly-drug use. If youre gonna do drugs you might as well just speedball it
    the plural of anecdote is not data
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    when i snort cocaine it makes me feel GOOD! thats all the proof i need that cocaine is good for you
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    cag knows this well. when cag takes her adderall with a big bottle of whiskey her little kidneys starts to shrivel up
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    Dr. Plug drugs
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    Quote Originally Posted by GulDucat View Post
    You can't compare your retarded theories to what you read off a brief history of time
    what are you even talking about
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    Quote Originally Posted by GulDucat View Post
    Riddle me this, pluggy, lmao what kind of theories would Einstein have about you shoving drugs in your ass?
    i clearly dont find it insulting pointing out that i put drugs up my butt, i mean i nsmed myself plug drugs okay
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gentleman Doli View Post
    alcohol consumption poses huge risks that extend beyond any protective effect moderate drinking might have on the cardiovascular system. that u actually think mixing an amphetamine and alcohol together has some sort of magical beneficial effect shows how big of a moron you are, you are NOT suposed to take amphetamines with alcohol period, the end. thats a great way to harm urself
    yeah you sound like youre very educated on the subject, by what mechanism does taking both together pose a risk of harming you? the truth is taking both together is less harmful than taking either alone
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    in fact if you wound up in the ER from an amphetamine overdose, the first line of treatment would be to give you benodiazepines
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonman View Post
    i clearly dont find it insulting pointing out that i put drugs up my butt, i mean i nsmed myself plug drugs okay
    Yes we all know you are proud to put drugs in your ass to try and be cool
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonman View Post
    yeah you sound like youre very educated on the subject, by what mechanism does taking both together pose a risk of harming you? the truth is taking both together is less harmful than taking either alone
    Using ethanol together with amphetamine can increase the risk of cardiovascular side effects such as increased heart rate, chest pain, or blood pressure changes. You should avoid or limit the use of alcohol while being treated with amphetamine. Let your doctor know if you experience severe or frequent headaches, chest pain, and/or a fast or pounding heartbeat
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    unknown. In one study, concurrent administration of methamphetamine (30 mg intravenously) and ethanol (1 gm/kg orally over 30 minutes) increased heart rate by 24 beats/minute compared to methamphetamine alone. This increases cardiac work and myocardial oxygen consumption, which may lead to more adverse cardiovascular effects than either agent alone. Subjective effects of ethanol were diminished in the eight study subjects, but those of methamphetamine were not affected. The pharmacokinetics of methamphetamine were also unaffected except for a decrease in the apparent volume of distribution at steady state. The interaction was suspected in a case report of a 20-year-old male who experienced retrosternal chest pain shortly after drinking alcohol and taking a double dose of his amphetamine/dextroamphetamine medication (Adderall 15 mg X 2) to stay alert. The patient had no family history of cardiovascular diseases, and his past medical history was remarkable only for ADHD. Prior to the episode, the patient had not taken his medication for weeks and had been drinking whiskey the previous three nights before going to bed. The patient was diagnosed with myocardial infarction likely secondary to amphetamine-induced coronary vasospasm.
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    Hey cag fucking puta let me choke-fuck you so hard in this night.


    Quote Originally Posted by Steffies Yelle View Post
    I'll kill myself live on cam as soon as there's proof I literlaly promise, I will sincerely kill myself as soon as I see elz's computer playing arma 3 maxed with all nvidia exclusive graphics
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gentleman Doli View Post
    cag knows this well. when cag takes her adderall with a big bottle of whiskey her little kidneys starts to shrivel up
    when i take stimulants i drink more than 100 fl oz of water a day my kidneys are fine
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    hahaha studies and the medical literature??? i have "experience"!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gentleman Doli View Post
    unknown. In one study, concurrent administration of methamphetamine (30 mg intravenously) and ethanol (1 gm/kg orally over 30 minutes) increased heart rate by 24 beats/minute compared to methamphetamine alone. This increases cardiac work and myocardial oxygen consumption, which may lead to more adverse cardiovascular effects than either agent alone. Subjective effects of ethanol were diminished in the eight study subjects, but those of methamphetamine were not affected. The pharmacokinetics of methamphetamine were also unaffected except for a decrease in the apparent volume of distribution at steady state. The interaction was suspected in a case report of a 20-year-old male who experienced retrosternal chest pain shortly after drinking alcohol and taking a double dose of his amphetamine/dextroamphetamine medication (Adderall 15 mg X 2) to stay alert. The patient had no family history of cardiovascular diseases, and his past medical history was remarkable only for ADHD. Prior to the episode, the patient had not taken his medication for weeks and had been drinking whiskey the previous three nights before going to bed. The patient was diagnosed with myocardial infarction likely secondary to amphetamine-induced coronary vasospasm.
    it said he hadn't taken his medication in weeks, and was probably at a baseline tolerance. Taking 30mg of adderall for anyone not familiar with it could cause strange feelings in the chest. I remember the first time I took adderall, i took 60mg and it felt like the muscles I use to breathe were going to stop working.

    I'm going to have to call bullshit on the increased heart rate. I've never experienced that, give me a link
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gentleman Doli View Post
    hahaha studies and the medical literature??? i have "experience"!
    you yourself argued that certain medical studies are flawed
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    ive never experienced Stevens–Johnson syndrome when i take bactrim and yet its a real side effect of the drug. who wouldve thougt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonman View Post
    it said he hadn't taken his medication in weeks, and was probably at a baseline tolerance. Taking 30mg of adderall for anyone not familiar with it could cause strange feelings in the chest. I remember the first time I took adderall, i took 60mg and it felt like the muscles I use to breathe were going to stop working.

    I'm going to have to call bullshit on the increased heart rate. I've never experienced that, give me a link
    myocardial infarction isnt a fucking "strange feeling in the chest", its a heart attack you fucking lunatic
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    fck plug drugs ur such an idiot lmao
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    lmfao Plug drugs is gonna have stevens-johnson syndrome


    Quote Originally Posted by Steffies Yelle View Post
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    that study is questionable, its from '95 and also says that methamphetamine by itself causes a "minimal change in heart rate", which is blatantly untrue
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    keep telling yourself and using drugs


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    Plug drug's experimental No. 352:


    Paint Nose:

    Mix some milliliters of paint, whatever colour, then add generic alcohol in the bag, inhale.


    Quote Originally Posted by Steffies Yelle View Post
    I'll kill myself live on cam as soon as there's proof I literlaly promise, I will sincerely kill myself as soon as I see elz's computer playing arma 3 maxed with all nvidia exclusive graphics
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gentleman Doli View Post
    myocardial infarction isnt a fucking "strange feeling in the chest", its a heart attack you fucking lunatic
    hmm didnt read that part. Where's the link to that article
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    Plug drug's experiment No. 353:


    Enhanced Paint Nose:

    Mix some milliliters of paint, whatever colour, then add generic alcohol and unleaded fuel in the bag, inhale.


    Quote Originally Posted by Steffies Yelle View Post
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    If he did actually have a heart attack, I bet there was caffeine or something in whatever he was drinking, or ginseng or some other kind of stimulant. Deaths from amphetamine alone are so rare they're almost exclusively limited to people with pre-existing heart problems or something.
    In the UK, only 832 deaths related to amphetamine were reported over a 10 year period (1997-2007), which is something like 6 deaths per 100,000 users. Not very significant.
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    Also in that study, they were getting them extremely drunk first (1 gm/kg of alcohol is like 6 drinks in only half an hour), then giving them meth an hour later. It's possible they were dehydrated and already starting to feel hungover by the time they stuck meth in them; I bet if they did a study where they gave them meth first, then an hour later give them a low dose of alcohol (1-2 drinks) they'd see a decrease in heart rate.
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    next time i'm tweaking, i will document my exploits with a video camera and check my heart rate before and after drinking alcohol and shit just to prove you wrong homes
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