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    Quote Originally Posted by Garfield View Post
    man why dont you guys just post jokes and stuff instead of getting so mad about things
    Your jokes are so horrend because you're already dead


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    Quote Originally Posted by juji View Post
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    somebody that a signature forme like with cool graphics nd stuff
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garfield View Post
    man why dont you guys just post jokes and stuff instead of getting so mad about things
    don't you see we're saving the fucking world here
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    no you goddamn sheep the constitution is absolute and anyone who violates it is your enemy
    why do you make me bait you into actually dissecting my points... I hope you're at least enjoying this as much as I am.

    islam isn't a race- do you really want to defend foreigners who commit human rights abuses against women, gays, etc... is that the hill you want to die on?

    I've destroyed your illusion long ago- you don't care about debating me youre just desperate to look like you've accomplished something. all your immediate replies are short, meaningless, and miss my point when you fail to address anything i actually said
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garfield View Post
    man why dont you guys just post jokes and stuff instead of getting so mad about things
    whose mad? trump is the God king and he's coming for all the haters, neoliberalism/neoconservatism will reign supreme! hail the globohomogayplex! enlist in the dickless corps to defend homosexuality from the muzzie brotherhood!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lina Goldberg View Post
    why do you make me bait you into actually dissecting my points... I hope you're at least enjoying this as much as I am.

    islam isn't a race- do you really want to defend foreigners who commit human rights abuses against women, gays, etc... is that the hill you want to die on?

    I've destroyed your illusion long ago- you don't care about debating me youre just desperate to look like you've accomplished something. all your immediate replies are short, meaningless, and miss my point when you fail to address anything i actually said
    Race isn't protected by the constitution, religion is. All religions are to be treated equally under law, and if they aren't then the constitution is being violated. Trump is a traitor and an enemy of this country's founding principles. Make all the excuses for him that you want, it's true and will continue to be true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lina Goldberg View Post
    all your immediate replies are short
    Long heartfelt replies have always been considered a sign of winning on this forum and elsewhere on the internet, especially if they're all over the place difficult to follow hypotheticals and whataboutism
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    assimilation is civic, cultural, and economic. Latino/Hispanic immigrant demographics have the highest rates of failing both economically and civically. muslim refugees fail to assimilate civically and culturally- most resent america for bombing them out of their homelands under bush/obama admin. islam is openly against liberty. give their nations a moratorium of immigration.

    Quote Originally Posted by George Washington, in a letter to John Adams
    [immigrants should be absorbed] “by an intermixture with our people, they, or their descendants, get assimilated to our customs, measures, laws: in a word soon become one people.”
    Quote Originally Posted by James Madison in a 1790 speech to Congress on the naturalization of immigrants
    [welcome the immigrant who could assimilate, but exclude the immigrant who could not readily] “incorporate himself into our society.”
    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander Hamilton
    “The safety of a republic depends essentially on the energy of a common national sentiment; on a uniformity of principles and habits; on the exemption of the citizens from foreign bias and prejudice; and on that love of country which will almost invariably be found to be closely connected with birth, education and family.”
    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander Hamilton
    “The United States have already felt the evils of incorporating a large number of foreigners into their national mass; by promoting in different classes different predilections in favor of particular foreign nations, and antipathies against others, it has served very much to divide the community and to distract our councils. It has been often likely to compromise the interests of our own country in favor of another. The permanent effect of such a policy will be, that in times of great public danger there will be always a numerous body of men, of whom there may be just grounds of distrust; the suspicion alone will weaken the strength of the nation, but their force may be actually employed in assisting an invader.”
    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander Hamilton
    [depends upon] “the preservation of a national spirit and a national character.” “To admit foreigners indiscriminately to the rights of citizens the moment they put foot in our country would be nothing less than to admit the Grecian horse into the citadel of our liberty and sovereignty.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lina Goldberg View Post
    Here's my rationale for why the constitution doesn't matter
    I mean you can believe whatever you want but stop calling yourself american and pretending that any of this fits with the core values of the united states. violating the constitution is real deal treason it's not meaningless edgy bullshit like burning the flag it's the actual death of this country
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    tell me right now succinctly without long winded hypotheticals and weasel words why you believe this country is better off without the bill of rights
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    i don't believe this nation is better off without the bill of rights. the argument for assimilation was supported by our founding fathers.
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    let's let anyone one in who cares if they commit crime the founding fathers all loved getting cucked after all their work framing the constitution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lina Goldberg View Post
    i don't believe this nation is better off without the bill of rights. the argument for assimilation was supported by our founding fathers.
    which one of the quotes you posted is followed up by "And that's why it's ok to ignore the first amendment whenever it's inconvenient for us"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander Hamilton
    “The United States have already felt the evils of incorporating a large number of foreigners into their national mass; by promoting in different classes different predilections in favor of particular foreign nations, and antipathies against others, it has served very much to divide the community and to distract our councils. It has been often likely to compromise the interests of our own country in favor of another. The permanent effect of such a policy will be, that in times of great public danger there will be always a numerous body of men, of whom there may be just grounds of distrust; the suspicion alone will weaken the strength of the nation, but their force may be actually employed in assisting an invader.”
    cuz it's a matter of national security lol
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    fun fact when the president takes his oath of office he pomises to, and I quote, "preserve protect and defend the constitution of the united states". Trump took that oath, he lied, he almost immediately started trying to pass unconstitutional laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lina Goldberg View Post
    cuz it's a matter of national security lol
    limiting the number of immigrants is constitutional denying particular immigrants based on religion is unconstitutional you're arguing an entirely different point try again
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    muslim refugees are a national security threat because they participate in radical islam. their religion is the threat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lina Goldberg View Post
    muslim refugees are a national security threat because they participate in radical islam. their religion is the threat.
    cool, so quote the part of the constitution that says it's ok to disregard the first amendment under those circumstances
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    actually how about you quote the part of the constitution that says it's legal to disregard the first amendment under *any* circumstances
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    cool, so quote the part of the constitution that says it's ok to disregard the first amendment under those circumstances
    Quote Originally Posted by Signed by John Adams 1798 June 18
    Congress passed the Naturalization Act, which extended from five to 14 years the period of residence required for alien immigrants to become full U.S. citizens (1 Stat. 566). On June 25, Congress passed the Alien Act, which authorized the president to expel, without a hearing, any alien the president deemed "dangerous to the peace and safety" of the United States or whom the president suspected of "treasonable or secret" inclinations (1 Stat. 570). On July 6, Congress passed the Alien Enemy Act, which authorized the president to arrest, imprison, or banish any resident alien hailing from a country against which the United States had declared war (1 Stat. 577).
    actually how about you quote the part of the constitution that says it's legal to disregard the first amendment under *any* circumstances
    articles 1, 2, and 3 structure the federal government, im sure you know bills are passed through legislative branch to be signed into law by the executive and the judicial determines their constitutionality.
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    If I were you I wouldn't mention the judiciary, they've declared the muslim ban unconstitutional and unenforceable like 3 or 4 times
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    Do you hate the entire bill of rights or just the first amendment? Also, how much of the first amendment would you like to repeal/ignore? Would you give up your own freedom of speech and of the press in order to give the executive branch the power to persecute whichever group you're bigoted against this week? Would you support attempts by congress to pass a law respecting the establishment of a mandatory state religion, something like an american anglican church?
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    You should petition the government with a redress of your grievances you're making some really good points itt
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    How about if you alt-right cowards stop trying to take away everyone else's liberties and practice your own second amendment rights if you're so goddamn terrified of the muzzies, that's what it's there for and it's worked fine for like 250 years
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    If I were you I wouldn't mention the judiciary, they've declared the muslim ban unconstitutional and unenforceable like 3 or 4 times
    good thing i don't want to ban islam, i just support the moratorium on immigration

    Do you hate the entire bill of rights or just the first amendment? Also, how much of the first amendment would you like to repeal/ignore? Would you give up your own freedom of speech and of the press in order to give the executive branch the power to persecute whichever group you're bigoted against this week? Would you support attempts by congress to pass a law respecting the establishment of a mandatory state religion, something like an american anglican church?
    i'm not against the bill of rights in any way, donald trump hasn't infringed on the MSM's freedom of press hes simply avoided them nor has he made any attempt to enact a state religion. i support the right to practice whatever religion you want and i'm just as critical of christianity and judaism as i am of islam and all religious institutions. i understand the community but what kind of divinity comes from some other mans mouth? the travel ban is a matter of national security to safeguard us from radical islam.

    How about if you alt-right cowards stop trying to take away everyone else's liberties and practice your own second amendment rights if you're so goddamn terrified of the muzzies, that's what it's there for and it's worked fine for like 250 years
    not only am i not alt right im not in favor of any ethnostate or division of this nation. i have no problem with the muslims in america. islam isn't a specific race and people practice it all over the world. i'm allowed to be critical of any religion i want- doesn't mean i want to control their lives. im in support of law and order and against open borders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lina Goldberg View Post
    good thing i don't want to ban islam, i just support the moratorium on immigration
    You support a law whgich has been struck down as unconstitutional more than once, so I ask you again, what other parts of the bill of rights do you oppose?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Franklin
    Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
    A founding father just called you a pussy
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    Quote Originally Posted by A staunch supporter of a republican president
    The world is scary! Big government, please, be my daddy and protect me from the bad evil extremists!
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