hey lonnie

a smart physical barrier (high walls in urban areas, fences in desolate areas with clear line of sight, whatever the expert engineers decide) is a practical and humane way to mitigate the desire to illegally enter the united states. a huge waste of money would be doing nothing and allowing republicans and democrats feign compassion for these people while using the perennial issue to be reelected and border crossers themselves as cheep labor. Trump just offered a THREE (beyond his term) year daca extension in exchange for border funding. Stop pretending like doing nothing and allowing the problem to exist is a solution- this isn't bigotry its actually one of the most humane ways to mitigate further damage.

i'm not talking about doing nothing. i want exactly what you said to happen, to clear up the daca mess that neither side wants to weigh in on and make real policy, because it would alienate their constituents. daca has served its purpose. it was a temporary deferral. now that that period is up, and since no one has created a path to citizenship, deport those people, immediately.
the wall makes cbp's job more difficult. they want to be able to see what's going on in mexico, not having a barrier blocking them. a wall stops no one, if people want to cross, they will. the majority come through legally and overstay. the wall also does nothing to deal with illegals in this country.

[Lina Goldberg]

this is not about a 2000 mile concrete barrier, neither is it about being 100% impossible to cross over.
a reply by lina goldberg 1/27/2019

i'm not talking about doing nothing. i want exactly what you said to happen, to clear up the daca mess that neither side wants to weigh in on and make real policy, because it would alienate their constituents. daca has served its purpose. it was a temporary deferral. now that that period is up, and since no one has created a path to citizenship, deport those people, immediately

doing nothing would be praying for mass deportation of all the current illegals while also taking no action to impede criminal activity across the border (people/drugs/etc). I thought you were being facetious when you were talking about deporting everybody. trump supporters, not just trolls like marco, many of them "strongly agree" with deporting ms13 members and "slightly/not at all agree" with deporting people who have lived in this nation since they were 2 years old, vets, etc...[deportation spectrum lol] I'm not sure to what extent you want to see deportations happen but if its because you think it could turn people away from trump, well it could. Trump would rather use some of their amnesty or naturalization as a bargaining token against the obstructing democrats- or at least to expose how democrats [and never trumpublicans] in this situation would rather defeat trump and make a hypocritical refusal to negotiate in favor of "dreamer futures"

a wall stops no one, if people want to cross, they will. the majority come through legally and overstay. the wall also does nothing to deal with illegals in this country.

correct, a large part of this would be immigration reform addressing the current undocumented people and the bureaucracy involved with immigrating, but the physical barrier is also an impediment to drug trafficking and sex/labor slaves who wouldn't enter through legal ports of entry. Its in large about thwarting the cartel which is unfortunately in league with many american and mexican politicans who, as we agreed, use these issues to their own gain. The cost of the barrier will pay for its self because the investment will in return reduce the cost of dealing with border crimes and tangential crimes and social issues in all parts of the nation like drug abuse

the wall makes cbp's job more difficult. they want to be able to see what's going on in mexico, not having a barrier blocking them.

I'm surprised you're using line of sight as an argument, everyone knows newest wall meme is BEAUTIFUL STEEL SLATS. Do you honestly think it pragmatic not to have a barrier on the border between two urban areas, you think border agents feel that way? The whole "we don't need any physical barrier" meme is completely false because why wouldn't we just tear down whats already there if it was "in the way" lmfao. a "smart barrier" is currently being designed by a team of expert engineers which is going to be brought to the govt within this 3 week period. These engineers are working with border control agents to diversify and maximize the effectiveness of any physical barrier. tall steel slats in urban areas will stop "MANY" elderly, women, and children- especially in caravan scenarios. chain link fence in wide open areas with plenty of view would be erected in locations currently with 0 barrier where a vehicle can be driven through, in these areas people on foot can be spotted more easily and just driven up to by border agents.

this is not about a 2000 mile concrete barrier, neither is it about being 100% impossible to cross over.
a reply by lina goldberg 1/27/2019



doing nothing would be praying for mass deportation of all the current illegals while also taking no action to impede criminal activity across the border (people/drugs/etc). I thought you were being facetious when you were talking about deporting everybody. trump supporters, not just trolls like marco, many of them "strongly agree" with deporting ms13 members and "slightly/not at all agree" with deporting people who have lived in this nation since they were 2 years old, vets, etc...[deportation spectrum lol] I'm not sure to what extent you want to see deportations happen but if its because you think it could turn people away from trump, well it could. Trump would rather use some of their amnesty or naturalization as a bargaining token against the obstructing democrats- or at least to expose how democrats [and never trumpublicans] in this situation would rather defeat trump and make a hypocritical refusal to negotiate in favor of "dreamer futures"



correct, a large part of this would be immigration reform addressing the current undocumented people and the bureaucracy involved with immigrating, but the physical barrier is also an impediment to drug trafficking and sex/labor slaves who wouldn't enter through legal ports of entry. Its in large about thwarting the cartel which is unfortunately in league with many american and mexican politicans who, as we agreed, use these issues to their own gain. The cost of the barrier will pay for its self because the investment will in return reduce the cost of dealing with border crimes and tangential crimes and social issues in all parts of the nation like drug abuse



I'm surprised you're using line of sight as an argument, everyone knows newest wall meme is BEAUTIFUL STEEL SLATS. Do you honestly think it pragmatic not to have a barrier on the border between two urban areas, you think border agents feel that way? The whole "we don't need any physical barrier" meme is completely false because why wouldn't we just tear down whats already there if it was "in the way" lmfao. a "smart barrier" is currently being designed by a team of expert engineers which is going to be brought to the govt within this 3 week period. These engineers are working with border control agents to diversify and maximize the effectiveness of any physical barrier. tall steel slats in urban areas will stop "MANY" elderly, women, and children- especially in caravan scenarios. chain link fence in wide open areas with plenty of view would be erected in locations currently with 0 barrier where a vehicle can be driven through, in these areas people on foot can be spotted more easily and just driven up to by border agents.

loonie, we don't need walls everywhere, that is a waste of money. We need and have walls where people cross on foot. These have already been built near urban areas

[Lina Goldberg]

loonie, we don't need walls everywhere, that is a waste of money. We need and have walls where people cross on foot. These have already been built near urban areas

what about when people just drive to the parts where there is 0 border

what about when people just drive to the parts where there is 0 border

Oh, do they do that now?

[Lina Goldberg]

Oh, do they do that now?

lol drive to the spots on the border without any barrier lmfao

lol drive to the spots on the border without any barrier lmfao

so why not support cbp in doing this, rather than building 2200 miles of wall?

[juji]

doing nothing would be praying for mass deportation of all the current illegals while also taking no action to impede criminal activity across the border (people/drugs/etc). I thought you were being facetious when you were talking about deporting everybody. trump supporters, not just trolls like marco, many of them "strongly agree" with deporting ms13 members and "slightly/not at all agree" with deporting people who have lived in this nation since they were 2 years old, vets, etc...[deportation spectrum lol] I'm not sure to what extent you want to see deportations happen but if its because you think it could turn people away from trump, well it could. Trump would rather use some of their amnesty or naturalization as a bargaining token against the obstructing democrats- or at least to expose how democrats [and never trumpublicans] in this situation would rather defeat trump and make a hypocritical refusal to negotiate in favor of "dreamer futures"

Again, it seems youre not good at Dark Souls, If would like to invade your world but you are already pre-dead so Im not going to bother you. Deporting MS13 members dont solve anything because they will return at different spots, I would agree if MS13 members are killed in the US better than deporting so no more taxes. Fuck Trumptards.

correct, a large part of this would be immigration reform addressing the current undocumented people and the bureaucracy involved with immigrating, but the physical barrier is also an impediment to drug trafficking and sex/labor slaves who wouldn't enter through legal ports of entry. Its in large about thwarting the cartel which is unfortunately in league with many american and mexican politicans who, as we agreed, use these issues to their own gain. The cost of the barrier will pay for its self because the investment will in return reduce the cost of dealing with border crimes and tangential crimes and social issues in all parts of the nation like drug abuse

Irrelevant, don't forget Donny died because of black tar heroin had nothing to do with our problem, anyone can use drug whatever they want and we are not their babysitters. Gov should be not babysitter and make drugs legal just like alcohol and tobacco so no more violence.

I'm surprised you're using line of sight as an argument, everyone knows newest wall meme is BEAUTIFUL STEEL SLATS. Do you honestly think it pragmatic not to have a barrier on the border between two urban areas, you think border agents feel that way? The whole "we don't need any physical barrier" meme is completely false because why wouldn't we just tear down whats already there if it was "in the way" lmfao. a "smart barrier" is currently being designed by a team of expert engineers which is going to be brought to the govt within this 3 week period. These engineers are working with border control agents to diversify and maximize the effectiveness of any physical barrier. tall steel slats in urban areas will stop "MANY" elderly, women, and children- especially in caravan scenarios. chain link fence in wide open areas with plenty of view would be erected in locations currently with 0 barrier where a vehicle can be driven through, in these areas people on foot can be spotted more easily and just driven up to by border agents.

Again, this idea is very stupid, who wastes 6 billions for caravan instead of using a border agent may earn 2000 per week who is helping illegal immigrants who are not criminals to enter the border, the wall makes laughable to criminals because they use tunnels, catapults, bulldozer, etc. to breach the wall and deliver the drugs. The real solution is "smart" overwatch that's how the experts suggested, Trump is an idiot who doesn't know how to solve a box can fit inside of hollow diamond.

[Battery Bits]

Again, it seems youre not good at Dark Souls, If would like to invade your world but you are already pre-dead so Im not going to bother you. Deporting MS13 members dont solve anything because they will return at different spots, I would agree if MS13 members are killed in the US better than deporting so no more taxes. Fuck Trumptards.




Irrelevant, don't forget Donny died because of black tar heroin had nothing to do with our problem, anyone can use drug whatever they want and we are not their babysitters. Gov should be not babysitter and make drugs legal just like alcohol and tobacco so no more violence.






Again, this idea is very stupid, who wastes 6 billions for caravan instead of using a border agent may earn 2000 per week who is helping illegal immigrants who are not criminals to enter the border, the wall makes laughable to criminals because they use tunnels, catapults, bulldozer, etc. to breach the wall and deliver the drugs. The real solution is "smart" overwatch that's how the experts suggested, Trump is an idiot who doesn't know how to solve a box can fit inside of hollow diamond.

another example of someone being so stupid they believe their own lies. Donny died clean of a heart attack.
.

[Cams Purple Lambo]

another example of someone being so stupid they believe their own lies. Donny died clean of a heart attack.
.

Induced by trauma to his cardiovascular system via heroin

[Lina Goldberg]

Again, it seems youre not good at Dark Souls, If would like to invade your world but you are already pre-dead so Im not going to bother you. Deporting MS13 members dont solve anything because they will return at different spots, I would agree if MS13 members are killed in the US better than deporting so no more taxes. Fuck Trumptards.




Irrelevant, don't forget Donny died because of black tar heroin had nothing to do with our problem, anyone can use drug whatever they want and we are not their babysitters. Gov should be not babysitter and make drugs legal just like alcohol and tobacco so no more violence.






Again, this idea is very stupid, who wastes 6 billions for caravan instead of using a border agent may earn 2000 per week who is helping illegal immigrants who are not criminals to enter the border, the wall makes laughable to criminals because they use tunnels, catapults, bulldozer, etc. to breach the wall and deliver the drugs. The real solution is "smart" overwatch that's how the experts suggested, Trump is an idiot who doesn't know how to solve a box can fit inside of hollow diamond.

this is a really good reply- addressing and offering counterpoints in full (+rep). But this thread just doubled in pages and i don't wanna do this anymore i wanna play some dark souls so i submit and request absolution from Elz of Carim. Please forgive me i just wanted to see what the dialog would be if i aggroed all the npcs, it was all for the sake of the lore!!!!

[Bev.]

this is a really good reply- addressing and offering counterpoints in full (+rep). But this thread just doubled in pages and i don't wanna do this anymore i wanna play some dark souls so i submit and request absolution from Elz of Carim. Please forgive me i just wanted to see what the dialog would be if i aggroed all the npcs, it was all for the sake of the lore!!!!

keep your fucking nose out of here ass hole

[Lina Goldberg]

keep your fucking nose out of here ass hole

I can't understand why anyone wants to talk to these old women. This is just profane.

[juji]

this is a really good reply- addressing and offering counterpoints in full (+rep). But this thread just doubled in pages and i don't wanna do this anymore i wanna play some dark souls so i submit and request absolution from Elz of Carim. Please forgive me i just wanted to see what the dialog would be if i aggroed all the npcs, it was all for the sake of the lore!!!!

Are you going to yield? I wonder how I can invade to your world