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    musick only exists to evoke a certain feeling and awhatevr gay shit that may trigger that feeling is still triggering it none the less




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    drunk stoned and very aroused wonder if ill feel different in the morning




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    Quote Originally Posted by lnopia the great View Post
    musick only exists to evoke a certain feeling and awhatevr gay shit that may trigger that feeling is still triggering it none the less
    this is actually an interesting thing to think about.
    One of the things I've always wondered is, does our music evoke the same emotions in other mammals? Perhaps they just aren't listening to the music, so it doesn't; or perhaps they are innately incapable of comprehending music; or perhaps a certain sequence of pitches only evokes a certain emotion that's unique to us as human beings.

    It's all very ambiguous it seems. If I had a few hundred thousand dollars of federal funding, I'd study it and find answers, but sadly I don't. I am but a junkie, and have no college degree such that the federal government would trust me with hundreds of thousands of dollars.
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    My guess is that they don't, for the most part. Although I vaguely remember dogs that were capable of barking along with a song, perhaps some of the 'smarter' dogs can comprehend simple melodies that evoke very simple and straightforward emotions, like casual happiness or comfort.

    And many species of birds apparently communicate through what sounds to us as 'song', but does it sound to them like 'song'? Perhaps they might not even be consciously aware of the noise they make, as it is very genetically automated.

    Then again, notions such as "consciously aware" may not even apply to animals, as they might only be as 'consciously aware' insomuch as they have to be for survival - possibly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    music is not music, some of it is shit. like godsmack, they're shit.
    I can understand that the song "Voodoo" is void of melodic complexity, and that a lot of godsmack is shit, but I think they still have a few songs that are worth listening to. If Pink Floyd had wrote the song Serenity back in the day, you'd be all in to it, you'd be amazed like "I can't believe Pink Floyd made something that sounds so heavy and is still so awesome!"
    Should a band's music be classified as good or bad just based on their namesake?

    I think a lot of Iron Maiden sucks, a statement which most of my friends would lynch me for making. I think people like the imagery associated with Iron Maiden as opposed to their music itself - their music doesn't seem to stand by itself in my opinion (except for a few songs).
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    the reason i think "mainstream" bands usually sound better than underground bands (or whatever you want to call them) is because if you're in a band, you'd almost need that guarantee of a record deal before you can devote yourself to the time it takes to write good material.

    Picture yourself in a band member's situation: usually a band's first one or two albums suck - is that because they eventually "got better" later on, or because they "hadn't found their sound yet"? Or is it because they never had the time to write decent material prior to getting picked up, nor the guarantee that their music would even be listened to? I think once a band lands a record deal, and they start working in a legitimate studio, they are able to devote themselves to writing their music which delivers a better end result.

    If you don't agree with all that, and maybe are thinking "well I have shitloads of free-time and none of that's true for me", I suggest trying to pick up an instrument and play it; it's far easier than you think. Becoming a good musician isn't a matter of technical ability or public image, it's a matter of having the will to do it.

    I'm not saying that I'm a good musician by any means, I am a mediocre musician. But the guy who taught me how to play guitar is a fucking genius on the guitar, but he's a shut-in who does nothing but play world of warcraft all day and tweak on adderall. He's not the best looking guy, but he's a fucking prodigy when it comes to the guitar - and he wasn't just naturally born to play the guitar, he put effort in to it back when he was a teenager. Before there was internet to waste his life away on, he was wasting his life away listening to the radio and playing guitar. I've tried talking him in to putting some of his stuff online, or trying to get in to a band, but ultimately he just doesn't have the motivation or the will to do that.

    Then I see and hear all the time bands getting famous over youtube, and their music is really only 'good', not great (a lot of its downright garbage). If half the people out there with aspirations to become a musician or w/e they've always wanted to be went out and actually started doing it, the music industry (and society as a whole) wouldn't be in the toilet that it's in.

    We look back at bands from the 60s and 70s and look at them as Gods, but really they were just completely normal people who happened to start playing an instrument when they were a teenager. Music as a whole took a slump in the late 80s because too many morons were admiring the fame that came with being a musician and weren't in it for the right reasons, and this idiocy rubbed off on a lot of other people as well. Although, the music-centered culture rebounded in the early 90s to bring us grunge and new genres, a lot of which are really good.

    The musical culture is undoubtedly in another slump right now, and has been since at least the early 2000s. I just hope that since a rebound was possible in the past, that a rebound is possible again, and hopefully we won't be stuck indefinitely with shit music.
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    Damn I'm tweaking hard right now
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    godsmack? really? honestly, godsmack?
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    music is subjective so everyone is wrong all the time, unless its godsmack they suck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plug Drugs View Post
    I can understand that the song "Voodoo" is void of melodic complexity, and that a lot of godsmack is shit, but I think they still have a few songs that are worth listening to. If Pink Floyd had wrote the song Serenity back in the day, you'd be all in to it, you'd be amazed like "I can't believe Pink Floyd made something that sounds so heavy and is still so awesome!"
    Should a band's music be classified as good or bad just based on their namesake?

    I think a lot of Iron Maiden sucks, a statement which most of my friends would lynch me for making. I think people like the imagery associated with Iron Maiden as opposed to their music itself - their music doesn't seem to stand by itself in my opinion (except for a few songs).
    The band has nothing to do with it, if Pink Floyd had written a Godsmack song it wouldn't automatically been good, it would have been a really shitty Pink Floyd song. Serenity is a shitty song no matter whose label you attach to it. It's not like Pink Floyd ever made a bad album, Atom Heart Mother is godawful.

    Whether or not you like Iron Maiden is irrelevant, they did new things and were hugely influential. Godsmack makes shitty generic hard rock, they don't innovate, and their influence on the genre and music in general has been null.

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    music is subjective so everyone is wrong all the time, unless its godsmack they suck.
    this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody View Post
    Plus he thinks nirvana came before the melvins, lol.
    that was garfield trolling
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plug Drugs View Post
    the reason i think "mainstream" bands usually sound better than underground bands (or whatever you want to call them) is because if you're in a band, you'd almost need that guarantee of a record deal before you can devote yourself to the time it takes to write good material.
    popular music is popular because it is popular




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    because politicians pick out bands for us to listen to to gain their votes listen to rihanna supporting obama in every almost song and god smack is literraly just a vessel for right wing christians to spread their "voodoo" all over america to alienate any true religions (jewishness, muslims, buddhas, etc)
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    thats why i only listen to indie bands because they give me the freeedom of choosing what to listen to
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    if at anytime i think they may try to be sending a message i can just turn it off, unlike these megasuperneonazibands i cant turn them off, theyre fucking everywhere, tv, cars, radio, somebody elses car, grocery stores, comcast on demand
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    if a youtube video has more then 10 000 views i dont watch it




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    ditto that
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    yeah why watch scooby doo, when u can watch mother fucking jabber jaw?
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    because jabber jaw is a faggot. speed buggy is where it's at.
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    i dare you to call jabber jaw a faggot to his face
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    Quote Originally Posted by rootbeer View Post
    i dare you to call jabber jaw a faggot to his face
    jabber jaw will openly admit to being a faggot, he has weekly orgies with pixie, dixie, yakky doodle, and grape ape.
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    guess which one is always on top

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    that's because snagglepuss isn't relevant to this conversation, him and huckleberry hound live quietly and monogamously in a small costal resort town in maine.
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    they used to go to the art museum with yogi and boo boo pretty regularly before yogi died of aids
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