Lily has nigger family members

[maks]

but the travel bans and him beating back the daca stuff has also effectively immunized our nation from the migrant crisis occurring in europe. sure think of the families if you want but don't forget about the end game of uncontrolled immigration of fighting aged males. plus isn't it obvious theses refugees and immigrants are used at the polls to prop up the hemorrhaging support for corrupt dems?

[Lina Goldberg]

come on don't yield actually refute my point do you really think unrestricted immigration isn't an issue that 'we the people' have suffered from?

[maks]

I think the federal government treationg people differently based on their religion is illegal 100% of the time and no matter how much of a hard on you have for this president's policies violating the core values of this country isn't the way to go about enforcing them

your point is stupid, wrong, and patently unamerican. consider it refuted.

[maks]

under current civil forfeiture law siezed assets aren't even required to be returned after the suspect is found not guilty, sounds constitutional to me, make america great again!

[maks]

freezing the assets of people suspected (but not always convicted) of participating in criminal activities? am i off, is this what you're talking about? how do you enforce the law and be really nice and civil towards the suspected criminals?

yeah god forbid the 4th and 5th amendments prevent us from punishing people who haven't been convicted of a crime

[Lina Goldberg]

I think the federal government treationg people differently based on their religion is illegal 100% of the time and no matter how much of a hard on you have for this president's policies violating the core values of this country isn't the way to go about enforcing them

your point is stupid, wrong, and patently unamerican. consider it refuted.

what about immigrants who hold anti american ideologies, practice them under the guise of religious freedom, and refuse to assimilate to the overarching american values (sharia law).

it would be unamerican for trump to deport illegal immigrants who hold american values but how can you say an illegal immigrant who is convicted and deported harbors american values? im in favor of naturalizing children brought to america who are 100% american (speak english, attend public school, love american culture, and would have no real ties to central or south america if they were deported). they are disposed to criminality not because they are from a specific race but because of the nature of their illegal status. these non citizens are being used like pawns as cheep labor, to traffic illegal substances, and as sexual commodities by the same sanctuary state politicians and people of influence that actively undermine federal immigration policy. Immigration is not a states right- its the job of the federal government to protect its borders and is completely justified to enact any immigration policy it feels necessary in order to protect the nation from people who are largely considered in the public eye to be anti american. think of the children at this point is just a partisan wedge issue used by the same people who profit off of illegal immigration, gang activity, cartel drug and human trafficking etc.

yeah god forbid the 4th and 5th amendments prevent us from punishing people who haven't been convicted of a crime. under current civil forfeiture law siezed assets aren't even required to be returned after the suspect is found not guilty, sounds constitutional to me, make america great again!

'If the property has been used in association with criminal activity, the property is subject to civil forfeiture proceedings... most[states], regardless of innocence or guilt, require the property owner to carry the burden of proving the property was not associated with criminal activity.' its time to consult your defense attorney! hypothetically if the cops seize the wad of cash you had because they had some sort of reasonable suspicion you of participating in a drug deal, you are now the defendant and if the cash was legally obtained you shouldn't have a problem in court proving your innocence. how do you expect criminal investigations to proceed if you obstruct law enforcement from obtaining evidence? if there is no wrong doing the 'blind justice' court system should rule in the defendants favor. the abuse of power isn't in the civil forfeiture law, the abuse is coming from cops without oversight who bend reasonable suspicion and judges whose rulings are unjust. How do you operate a criminal investigation if the law enforcement can't obtain evidence? if there is no wrong doing or abuse of power by civil servants than there should be no problem here.

[maks]

7 paragraphs of "but the bill of rights gets in the way of the particular form of racism I support!"

no you goddamn sheep the constitution is absolute and anyone who violates it is your enemy

[Lina Goldberg]

no you goddamn sheep the constitution is absolute and anyone who violates it is your enemy

why do you make me bait you into actually dissecting my points... I hope you're at least enjoying this as much as I am.

islam isn't a race- do you really want to defend foreigners who commit human rights abuses against women, gays, etc... is that the hill you want to die on?

I've destroyed your illusion long ago- you don't care about debating me youre just desperate to look like you've accomplished something. all your immediate replies are short, meaningless, and miss my point when you fail to address anything i actually said

[maks]

why do you make me bait you into actually dissecting my points... I hope you're at least enjoying this as much as I am.

islam isn't a race- do you really want to defend foreigners who commit human rights abuses against women, gays, etc... is that the hill you want to die on?

I've destroyed your illusion long ago- you don't care about debating me youre just desperate to look like you've accomplished something. all your immediate replies are short, meaningless, and miss my point when you fail to address anything i actually said

Race isn't protected by the constitution, religion is. All religions are to be treated equally under law, and if they aren't then the constitution is being violated. Trump is a traitor and an enemy of this country's founding principles. Make all the excuses for him that you want, it's true and will continue to be true.

[Wendy <3]

[maks]

all your immediate replies are short

Long heartfelt replies have always been considered a sign of winning on this forum and elsewhere on the internet, especially if they're all over the place difficult to follow hypotheticals and whataboutism

man why dont you guys just post jokes and stuff instead of getting so mad about things

[juji]

man why dont you guys just post jokes and stuff instead of getting so mad about things

Your jokes are so horrend because you're already dead

Your jokes are so horrend because you're already dead

somebody that a signature forme like with cool graphics nd stuff

[maks]

man why dont you guys just post jokes and stuff instead of getting so mad about things

don't you see we're saving the fucking world here

[Lina Goldberg]

man why dont you guys just post jokes and stuff instead of getting so mad about things

whose mad? trump is the God king and he's coming for all the haters, neoliberalism/neoconservatism will reign supreme! hail the globohomogayplex! enlist in the dickless corps to defend homosexuality from the muzzie brotherhood!

[Lina Goldberg]

assimilation is civic, cultural, and economic. Latino/Hispanic immigrant demographics have the highest rates of failing both economically and civically. muslim refugees fail to assimilate civically and culturally- most resent america for bombing them out of their homelands under bush/obama admin. islam is openly against liberty. give their nations a moratorium of immigration.

[immigrants should be absorbed] “by an intermixture with our people, they, or their descendants, get assimilated to our customs, measures, laws: in a word soon become one people.”

[welcome the immigrant who could assimilate, but exclude the immigrant who could not readily] “incorporate himself into our society.”

“The safety of a republic depends essentially on the energy of a common national sentiment; on a uniformity of principles and habits; on the exemption of the citizens from foreign bias and prejudice; and on that love of country which will almost invariably be found to be closely connected with birth, education and family.”

“The United States have already felt the evils of incorporating a large number of foreigners into their national mass; by promoting in different classes different predilections in favor of particular foreign nations, and antipathies against others, it has served very much to divide the community and to distract our councils. It has been often likely to compromise the interests of our own country in favor of another. The permanent effect of such a policy will be, that in times of great public danger there will be always a numerous body of men, of whom there may be just grounds of distrust; the suspicion alone will weaken the strength of the nation, but their force may be actually employed in assisting an invader.”

[depends upon] “the preservation of a national spirit and a national character.” “To admit foreigners indiscriminately to the rights of citizens the moment they put foot in our country would be nothing less than to admit the Grecian horse into the citadel of our liberty and sovereignty.”

[maks]

Here's my rationale for why the constitution doesn't matter

I mean you can believe whatever you want but stop calling yourself american and pretending that any of this fits with the core values of the united states. violating the constitution is real deal treason it's not meaningless edgy bullshit like burning the flag it's the actual death of this country

[maks]

tell me right now succinctly without long winded hypotheticals and weasel words why you believe this country is better off without the bill of rights

[Lina Goldberg]

let's let anyone one in who cares if they commit crime the founding fathers all loved getting cucked after all their work framing the constitution.

[Lina Goldberg]

“The United States have already felt the evils of incorporating a large number of foreigners into their national mass; by promoting in different classes different predilections in favor of particular foreign nations, and antipathies against others, it has served very much to divide the community and to distract our councils. It has been often likely to compromise the interests of our own country in favor of another. The permanent effect of such a policy will be, that in times of great public danger there will be always a numerous body of men, of whom there may be just grounds of distrust; the suspicion alone will weaken the strength of the nation, but their force may be actually employed in assisting an invader.”

cuz it's a matter of national security lol

[maks]

cuz it's a matter of national security lol

limiting the number of immigrants is constitutional denying particular immigrants based on religion is unconstitutional you're arguing an entirely different point try again

[Lina Goldberg]

i don't believe this nation is better off without the bill of rights. the argument for assimilation was supported by our founding fathers.

[maks]

i don't believe this nation is better off without the bill of rights. the argument for assimilation was supported by our founding fathers.

which one of the quotes you posted is followed up by "And that's why it's ok to ignore the first amendment whenever it's inconvenient for us"?

[maks]

fun fact when the president takes his oath of office he pomises to, and I quote, "preserve protect and defend the constitution of the united states". Trump took that oath, he lied, he almost immediately started trying to pass unconstitutional laws.

[Lina Goldberg]

muslim refugees are a national security threat because they participate in radical islam. their religion is the threat.

[maks]

muslim refugees are a national security threat because they participate in radical islam. their religion is the threat.

cool, so quote the part of the constitution that says it's ok to disregard the first amendment under those circumstances

[maks]

actually how about you quote the part of the constitution that says it's legal to disregard the first amendment under *any* circumstances

[Lina Goldberg]

cool, so quote the part of the constitution that says it's ok to disregard the first amendment under those circumstances

Congress passed the Naturalization Act, which extended from five to 14 years the period of residence required for alien immigrants to become full U.S. citizens (1 Stat. 566). On June 25, Congress passed the Alien Act, which authorized the president to expel, without a hearing, any alien the president deemed "dangerous to the peace and safety" of the United States or whom the president suspected of "treasonable or secret" inclinations (1 Stat. 570). On July 6, Congress passed the Alien Enemy Act, which authorized the president to arrest, imprison, or banish any resident alien hailing from a country against which the United States had declared war (1 Stat. 577).

actually how about you quote the part of the constitution that says it's legal to disregard the first amendment under *any* circumstances

articles 1, 2, and 3 structure the federal government, im sure you know bills are passed through legislative branch to be signed into law by the executive and the judicial determines their constitutionality.