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    elezark left mexico because mexico sucks. there is nothing wrong with the land or placement of mexico, so it is the people. the people are what sucks about these countries. what's wrong with puerto rico, we practically consider it a paradise. the fucking people are what's wrong
    I agree Mexico sucks because americans are bringing guns to Mexico to sell there. Eventually when I become an american, I get funds and I may hire private security to protect my company in Mexico.


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    Quote Originally Posted by juji View Post
    I agree Mexico sucks because americans are bringing guns to Mexico to sell there. Eventually when I become an american, I get funds and I may hire private security to protect my company in Mexico.
    im pretty sure mexico sucks because every level of government is corrupt, straight down to the voters. the guns are just an accessory to the problem
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    Quote Originally Posted by clay View Post
    im pretty sure mexico sucks because every level of government is corrupt, straight down to the voters. the guns are just an accessory to the problem
    Like someone would shoot the teacher and their mates in the school. Most of them aren't children of illegal immigrants.


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    Quote Originally Posted by juji View Post
    Like someone would shoot the teacher and their mates in the school. Most of them aren't children of illegal immigrants.
    go add up how many people have died in school shootings over the history of the united states and let me know if it exceeds cartel deaths for any 3 month period in the past 10 years.
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    And build bigger wall. Lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by juji View Post
    I agree Mexico sucks because americans are bringing guns to Mexico to sell there. Eventually when I become an american, I get funds and I may hire private security to protect my company in Mexico.
    the american drug war literally created the cartels, but I'm sure that more government is the solution, it's worked so well in the past
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    the american drug war literally created the cartels, but I'm sure that more government is the solution, it's worked so well in the past
    Christhian people like senators and other politicians banned the drugs as they banned alcohol in 20's and weed in the border which could create more problems, since when gov was like mother?


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    Quote Originally Posted by juji View Post
    since when gov was like mother?
    since people like lonnie started trusting them and developing schoolgirl crushes on them.
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    and yet i have run over mexicans with my car before. you thought that was hyperbole.
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    The problem with Mexico is the war on drugs lol. We've opened up a nice little black market with cartels. That's why people are leaving. End the war of drugs by decriminalizing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cag. View Post
    The problem with Mexico is the war on drugs lol. We've opened up a nice little black market with cartels. That's why people are leaving. End the war of drugs by decriminalizing
    decriminalizing doesn't go far enough. the majority of drugs need to be fully legalized and legitimized.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    decriminalizing doesn't go far enough. the majority of drugs need to be fully legalized and legitimized.
    Yep, fully legalized like tobacco and beers, if Cag is intoxicated, I'm pretty sure is not our problem, maybe her stupidity does.


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    the cartels were already there, but the american war on drugs pumped money into them.

    the same happened with prohibition. the mobs already existed, our government just gave them a brand new source of income. and then our government waged war on them. enough of a war that they decided to change how they operated. mexico doesn't do shit to the cartels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clay View Post
    the cartels were already there, but the american war on drugs pumped money into them.

    the same happened with prohibition. the mobs already existed, our government just gave them a brand new source of income. and then our government waged war on them. enough of a war that they decided to change how they operated. mexico doesn't do shit to the cartels.
    yes more government is the answer. we're back on the rover of shit, except this time we're bailing shitwater *into* the boat. hey guys I've been thinking about this hole in the boat, the one that's making us sink, how about if I shoot it with a rocket launcher that will probably help right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    yes more government is the answer. we're back on the rover of shit, except this time we're bailing shitwater *into* the boat. hey guys I've been thinking about this hole in the boat, the one that's making us sink, how about if I shoot it with a rocket launcher that will probably help right?
    it doesn't require more government. the apparatus is already there, it exists currently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clay View Post
    it doesn't require more government. the apparatus is already there, it exists currently.
    using your own example of the mobs during prohibition, it led to the creation of a whole new federal arm of law enforcement, the fbi, currently employs 35,000 people on your dime, and the RICO statutes which strengthen the powers of law enforcement agencies and the office of the prosecutor. it sure took a lot of new government and a lot of new government power to solve a problem that new government created.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    using your own example of the mobs during prohibition, it led to the creation of a whole new federal arm of law enforcement, the fbi, currently employs 35,000 people on your dime, and the RICO statutes which strengthen the powers of law enforcement agencies and the office of the prosecutor. it sure took a lot of new government and a lot of new government power to solve a problem that new government created.
    i assumed you were going to bring this up. a lot of the people who joined the fbi were actually already employed by the united states government in some form of law enforcement, they were already there.

    but what i wanted to show you were some numbers.

    mexico:

    • 128 million people
      760,000 sq mi
      500,000 police
      1 cop for every 256 people
      1 cop for every 1.52 square miles


    united states:

    • 326 million people
      3,800,000 sq mi
      765,000 police
      1 cop for every 426 people
      1 cop for every 4.96 square miles


    mexico has practically double the police force per capita and per square mile coverage that the united states does. aside from that, mexico border patrol and full time active military are also used basically as police agents against drug involved persons. when i've been to mexico, i get harassed by the military constantly. they have no qualm with using their military against the population. so that actually means they have even more police units per sq. mi. and population.

    but still they fail. corruption, ignorance, plain incompetence. hispanics are about 8 IQ points dumber, on average, than whites... maybe they just cant figure it out and keep throwing numbers at the problem
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    the fbi was also started way before prohibition, but i believe it was expanded significantly under that time. so i didn't argue the point
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    that's actually the problem. they have a billion employees with little to no oversight just kind of doing their own thing, that's like a petri dish for corruption. the fbi organized thousands of people under one banner with a tight leash. mexico needs to fire 60% of its police and find someone with some balls to reign in the ones that are left, a real fascist asshole like j edgar hoover. if you're going to grow government at least give up the pretense of maintaining a free society and do it right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    that's actually the problem. they have a billion employees with little to no oversight just kind of doing their own thing, that's like a petri dish for corruption. the fbi organized thousands of people under one banner with a tight leash. mexico needs to fire 60% of its police and find someone with some balls to reign in the ones that are left, a real fascist asshole like j edgar hoover. if you're going to grow government at least give up the pretense of maintaining a free society and do it right.
    incompetence. they run their country into the ground, so they send their citizens here to make money and send remittances back down the pipeline. then that money gets spent in mexico/wherever and props up their economy in the short term. literal parasite economy
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    by the way i believe everything i am saying, this isnt a troll. illegal immigration, regardless of the origination, is going to drag society down. it happened with the irish, it happened with the italians, it happened with the puerto ricans, and now its happening with the central americans. the only mass group of immigrants that didnt seem to bring this country down were the germans. but i could be wrong about that
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    and to add in, yes it happened with the white anglo saxon protestants. there just didnt happen to be a united states back then. but they came over, took natural resources, fucked with the locals, whatever. it happens no matter the race or location
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    this isnt the safest time in our history
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    Quote Originally Posted by clay View Post
    this isnt the safest time in our history
    that isn't what the statistics say, anecdotally it probably seems that way because you refuse to leave an area in decline due to your buford pusser complex
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    Any country from latin america where the corruption dominates. Not only in Mexico, also it applies in Colombia, Brazil, etc.

    The problem is "Institution" no one can take as leader in the governement, they are being too selective.


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    i dont get it. mobs were already here, drugs were already here, our general population set was already here, guns were already here. what changed en masse in the 60's, i just dont know...
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    In 70's is when Martin Luther King Jr. is assassinated.

    In 70's is when the hippies demand more drugs.

    In 70's is when they used cocaine for first time.

    In 70's is when the women earn more sexier also more rapes.

    In 70's is when the serial killers are booming.

    In 70's is when urban gentrification exists.


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    Quote Originally Posted by juji View Post
    In 70's is when Martin Luther King Jr. is assassinated.

    In 70's is when the hippies demand more drugs.

    In 70's is when they used cocaine for first time.

    In 70's is when the women earn more sexier also more rapes.

    In 70's is when the serial killers are booming.

    In 70's is when urban gentrification exists.
    king was killed in 1968 along with rfk jr., moron

    hippies were from the 60's, moron. the altamont free concert of 1969 is generally agreed upon as the end of the hippy era.

    so sherlock holmes didnt do cocaine 60 years earlier, you're right. moron.

    women started dressing like whores way before the 70s, idiot.

    im not mentally deranged, so i dont know much about serial killers.

    the 70s is actually when people were leaving urban centers. just die
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    Quote Originally Posted by clay View Post
    king was killed in 1968 along with rfk jr., moron

    hippies were from the 60's, moron. the altamont free concert of 1969 is generally agreed upon as the end of the hippy era.

    so sherlock holmes didnt do cocaine 60 years earlier, you're right. moron.

    women started dressing like whores way before the 70s, idiot.

    im not mentally deranged, so i dont know much about serial killers.

    the 70s is actually when people were leaving urban centers. just die


    1968 is too near to 70's, are you just telling me moron why I didn't say Martin died in 80's?


    Hippies from 60's are known as early hippies, then it's completely propagated in 70's


    Not only Sherlock Holmes, it was used by incas in Peru, they chew with coca leaves. I mean the hippies demanded more drugs including cocaine.


    Before the 70's, no woman is more sexier without thong.


    If you don't know who are serial killers, are you not trying to say they are white? shame on you.


    I don't think you understand about urban gentrification, would you mind to explain what happened the decline of Detroit? If you try to say it was mexicans, you're thinking wrong, I'm not trying to defend mexicans since California is full of mexicans then never happened like decline of Detroit.


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