if only yall could see each others point of view a little more and agree that both a gui and a command line each have their strengths and weaknesses, you can conclude a fair way to work is to use both.

i skimmed through this thread a little bit and i think maybe the complaint plug drugs against windows 8 has isnt as hypocritical as maks makes it out to be, on the basis that plugs drugs uses the windows gui so he's already using dumbed down software, etc.

i can think of changes to my present windows experience that i would have welcomed, but didn't happen. eventually if you simplify something enough the computer will just turn right back into a television, where there's no creating, only consuming (think about how in particular bill gates trys to reaffirm that users 'like to create, and they like to consume').. maybe plug drugs doesnt like the element of oversimplification or the idea of 'dumbing down' which is a fair point, idk my laptop battery has like 1% i gotta hit submit early or itll all be lost ahhhh