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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    there's no such thing as a soul so there's nothing tying you to the eventual copy of yourself, for all intents and circumstances it isn't you
    but your own logic defeats itself; you're exactly right: there is no soul, that exact copy of you is you, because all that you are is what you've experienced, so that exact copy of you by all rights is still you. There is nothing tying you to it other than a superficial sense of identity
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plug Drugs View Post
    but your own logic defeats itself; you're exactly right: there is no soul, that exact copy of you is you, because all that you are is what you've experienced, so that exact copy of you by all rights is still you. There is nothing tying you to it other than a superficial sense of identity
    It's not you, it's someone who happens to look like you who is born trillions of years after your death. You don't "die, then wake up", you die, your universe is destroyed, and at some distant point in the future another collection of molecules and energy that resembles you is born. It has no more connection to you than a clone would.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    It's not you, it's someone who happens to look like you who is born trillions of years after your death. You don't "die, then wake up", you die, your universe is destroyed, and at some distant point in the future another collection of molecules and energy that resembles you is born. It has no more connection to you than a clone would.
    you're right, but i don't think in order to feel satisfied with this thought experiment we have to recognize some sort of connection or "soul" shared between us and our distant "existential clones"; the fact is that life goes on, our life eternally recurs, your exact thoughts right now are shared more than a trillion times over in time. That should leave us satisfied, to know that life will continue to exist eternally, unless some other scenario is true and our life and existence is merely a blip of light between two eternities of darkness
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plug Drugs View Post
    you're right, but i don't think in order to feel satisfied with this thought experiment we have to recognize some sort of connection or "soul" shared between us and our distant "existential clones"; the fact is that life goes on, our life eternally recurs, your exact thoughts right now are shared more than a trillion times over in time. That should leave us satisfied, to know that life will continue to exist eternally, unless some other scenario is true and our life and existence is merely a blip of light between two eternities of darkness
    I don't buy into either scenario tbh fractal theory is where it's at
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plug Drugs View Post
    you're right, but i don't think in order to feel satisfied with this thought experiment we have to recognize some sort of connection or "soul" shared between us and our distant "existential clones"; the fact is that life goes on, our life eternally recurs, your exact thoughts right now are shared more than a trillion times over in time. That should leave us satisfied, to know that life will continue to exist eternally, unless some other scenario is true and our life and existence is merely a blip of light between two eternities of darkness
    wtf
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    face it fractal theory rocks everything else is bullshit
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    plug drugs, youre right, this is all your drug induced hallucination, the universe is your creation and its bound to keep loopingover and over and over agian and only you can change it, did you see that movie Looper yet? (spoiler alret)
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    either scenario is motivating in one way or another; the biggest mistake we can make is to be trapped in confusion and believe in nothing; know that no matter what is true, there is still a hopeful outlook on it.
    If we are just a blip of light between two eternities of darkness, then our life should ring out to us as some sort of grand tragedy that we should make the most of
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plug Drugs View Post
    either scenario is motivating in one way or another; the biggest mistake we can make is to be trapped in confusion and believe in nothing; know that no matter what is true, there is still a hopeful outlook on it.
    If we are just a blip of light between two eternities of darkness, then our life should ring out to us as some sort of grand tragedy that we should make the most of
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    I'll kill myself live on cam as soon as there's proof I literlaly promise, I will sincerely kill myself as soon as I see elz's computer playing arma 3 maxed with all nvidia exclusive graphics
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plug Drugs View Post
    either scenario is motivating in one way or another; the biggest mistake we can make is to be trapped in confusion and believe in nothing; know that no matter what is true, there is still a hopeful outlook on it.
    If we are just a blip of light between two eternities of darkness, then our life should ring out to us as some sort of grand tragedy that we should make the most of
    life is about being as comfortable and entertained as possible until you die, a drug addict of all people should understand that
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    life is about being as comfortable and entertained as possible until you die, a drug addict of all people should understand that
    when i got a bunch of money from inheritance recently and did what any drug-lover would do and spent a few weeks getting completely doped out, i had all the opiates i could dream of and it just wasn't enough for me. No matter how much I took, I didn't feel satisfied. I realized that I would overdose before I could ever feel satisfied - and I almost did, I almost fell asleep while driving a few times no matter how much I tried forcing myself to stay awake; I had to slap myself awake a few times just so I didn't crash and kill myself.
    But even being at that point where I was nodding out so hard I had to concentrate on the simplest tasks and would fall asleep standing up, I wasn't feeling the amount of pleasure I wanted and I wasn't satisfied...

    The moments in life when I am most satisfied are when I take so many drugs that I am scared I might die or never go back to being normal again; only then do I start appreciating things as they are
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plug Drugs View Post
    when i got a bunch of money from inheritance recently and did what any drug-lover would do and spent a few weeks getting completely doped out, i had all the opiates i could dream of and it just wasn't enough for me. No matter how much I took, I didn't feel satisfied. I realized that I would overdose before I could ever feel satisfied - and I almost did, I almost fell asleep while driving a few times no matter how much I tried forcing myself to stay awake; I had to slap myself awake a few times just so I didn't crash and kill myself.
    But even being at that point where I was nodding out so hard I had to concentrate on the simplest tasks and would fall asleep standing up, I wasn't feeling the amount of pleasure I wanted and I wasn't satisfied...

    The moments in life when I am most satisfied are when I take so many drugs that I am scared I might die or never go back to being normal again; only then do I start appreciating things as they are
    if you're looking for perfect then you're setting yourself up to fail, such a thing does not exist
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    have you ever woke up with your arm completely numb because you were laying in one position all night, too high to wake up and roll over, and then you wake up 15 hours later and say to yourself "Jesus christ, i'm still high"
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    to be honest, I almost got to the point of losing control of bodily functions. If another drug had been in the equation (like benzos or alcohol), that's what would have happened. But I don't like mixing downers, i try to enjoy just one at a time
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    i literally got so high on oxy i was hallucinating. I went into a radical grandiose delerium.
    I didn't let the hallucinations bother me though, I just acknowledged the fact that I was hallucinating from the obscenely high dose of oxy and just went with it.
    At the peak of it, I was doing something like 300-350mg a day, or about $200-250 worth of oxy a day
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