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    Quote Originally Posted by Plug Drugs View Post
    but since your brain would be dead during this near-eternal gap in time, it would seem like a mere instant; the moment you die, you would come back to life as an infant again with no past memory, only to relive the same exact life with no difference whatsoever
    there's no such thing as a soul so there's nothing tying you to the eventual copy of yourself, for all intents and circumstances it isn't you
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    if it happens infinite times it pretty much has to happen the same way again but based on our observations of the universe there's no such thing as infinity
    this is another possibility -- that our universe will simply gain entropy to the point of a "great cooling" where all matter in the universe is too spread out and no more reactions between particles occur anymore. An "Eternal Winter" if you will
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plug Drugs View Post
    but since your brain would be dead during this near-eternal gap in time, it would seem like a mere instant; the moment you die, you would come back to life as an infant again with no past memory, only to relive the same exact life with no difference whatsoever
    i wish i could tell my next life to never post on yikers so i never find this dump
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plug Drugs View Post
    this is another possibility -- that our universe will simply gain entropy to the point of a "great cooling" where all matter in the universe is too spread out and no more reactions between particles occur anymore. An "Eternal Winter" if you will
    you're thinking too small, the illusion of order that we call our universe is just one of an uncountable number of fractals
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    there's no such thing as a soul so there's nothing tying you to the eventual copy of yourself, for all intents and circumstances it isn't you
    but your own logic defeats itself; you're exactly right: there is no soul, that exact copy of you is you, because all that you are is what you've experienced, so that exact copy of you by all rights is still you. There is nothing tying you to it other than a superficial sense of identity
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    this thanksgiving, lets be thankful that we weren't born a cripple, and that there were at least a few moments in life where we found life worth living - because our eternally recurring copies of ourselves will have to experience this same life again and again
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plug Drugs View Post
    but your own logic defeats itself; you're exactly right: there is no soul, that exact copy of you is you, because all that you are is what you've experienced, so that exact copy of you by all rights is still you. There is nothing tying you to it other than a superficial sense of identity
    It's not you, it's someone who happens to look like you who is born trillions of years after your death. You don't "die, then wake up", you die, your universe is destroyed, and at some distant point in the future another collection of molecules and energy that resembles you is born. It has no more connection to you than a clone would.
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    did not read the whole thread because plug drug is a headache generator
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    face it fractal theory rocks everything else is bullshit
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    plug drugs, youre right, this is all your drug induced hallucination, the universe is your creation and its bound to keep loopingover and over and over agian and only you can change it, did you see that movie Looper yet? (spoiler alret)
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    implying there is more than one universe implying we dont just stop existing and the universe doesnt stop changing into new things and never repeats it self EVER aka shit only happens once as time does not loop around ever
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    It's not you, it's someone who happens to look like you who is born trillions of years after your death. You don't "die, then wake up", you die, your universe is destroyed, and at some distant point in the future another collection of molecules and energy that resembles you is born. It has no more connection to you than a clone would.
    you're right, but i don't think in order to feel satisfied with this thought experiment we have to recognize some sort of connection or "soul" shared between us and our distant "existential clones"; the fact is that life goes on, our life eternally recurs, your exact thoughts right now are shared more than a trillion times over in time. That should leave us satisfied, to know that life will continue to exist eternally, unless some other scenario is true and our life and existence is merely a blip of light between two eternities of darkness
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    either scenario is motivating in one way or another; the biggest mistake we can make is to be trapped in confusion and believe in nothing; know that no matter what is true, there is still a hopeful outlook on it.
    If we are just a blip of light between two eternities of darkness, then our life should ring out to us as some sort of grand tragedy that we should make the most of
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plug Drugs View Post
    either scenario is motivating in one way or another; the biggest mistake we can make is to be trapped in confusion and believe in nothing; know that no matter what is true, there is still a hopeful outlook on it.
    If we are just a blip of light between two eternities of darkness, then our life should ring out to us as some sort of grand tragedy that we should make the most of
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plug Drugs View Post
    you're right, but i don't think in order to feel satisfied with this thought experiment we have to recognize some sort of connection or "soul" shared between us and our distant "existential clones"; the fact is that life goes on, our life eternally recurs, your exact thoughts right now are shared more than a trillion times over in time. That should leave us satisfied, to know that life will continue to exist eternally, unless some other scenario is true and our life and existence is merely a blip of light between two eternities of darkness
    I don't buy into either scenario tbh fractal theory is where it's at
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plug Drugs View Post
    either scenario is motivating in one way or another; the biggest mistake we can make is to be trapped in confusion and believe in nothing; know that no matter what is true, there is still a hopeful outlook on it.
    If we are just a blip of light between two eternities of darkness, then our life should ring out to us as some sort of grand tragedy that we should make the most of
    life is about being as comfortable and entertained as possible until you die, a drug addict of all people should understand that
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    life is about being as comfortable and entertained as possible until you die, a drug addict of all people should understand that
    when i got a bunch of money from inheritance recently and did what any drug-lover would do and spent a few weeks getting completely doped out, i had all the opiates i could dream of and it just wasn't enough for me. No matter how much I took, I didn't feel satisfied. I realized that I would overdose before I could ever feel satisfied - and I almost did, I almost fell asleep while driving a few times no matter how much I tried forcing myself to stay awake; I had to slap myself awake a few times just so I didn't crash and kill myself.
    But even being at that point where I was nodding out so hard I had to concentrate on the simplest tasks and would fall asleep standing up, I wasn't feeling the amount of pleasure I wanted and I wasn't satisfied...

    The moments in life when I am most satisfied are when I take so many drugs that I am scared I might die or never go back to being normal again; only then do I start appreciating things as they are
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    to be honest, I almost got to the point of losing control of bodily functions. If another drug had been in the equation (like benzos or alcohol), that's what would have happened. But I don't like mixing downers, i try to enjoy just one at a time
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    i literally got so high on oxy i was hallucinating. I went into a radical grandiose delerium.
    I didn't let the hallucinations bother me though, I just acknowledged the fact that I was hallucinating from the obscenely high dose of oxy and just went with it.
    At the peak of it, I was doing something like 300-350mg a day, or about $200-250 worth of oxy a day
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plug Drugs View Post
    when i got a bunch of money from inheritance recently and did what any drug-lover would do and spent a few weeks getting completely doped out, i had all the opiates i could dream of and it just wasn't enough for me. No matter how much I took, I didn't feel satisfied. I realized that I would overdose before I could ever feel satisfied - and I almost did, I almost fell asleep while driving a few times no matter how much I tried forcing myself to stay awake; I had to slap myself awake a few times just so I didn't crash and kill myself.
    But even being at that point where I was nodding out so hard I had to concentrate on the simplest tasks and would fall asleep standing up, I wasn't feeling the amount of pleasure I wanted and I wasn't satisfied...

    The moments in life when I am most satisfied are when I take so many drugs that I am scared I might die or never go back to being normal again; only then do I start appreciating things as they are
    if you're looking for perfect then you're setting yourself up to fail, such a thing does not exist
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    one time during my bender, I was laying in bed trying to time my breathes per minute to see if I was 'okay' to fall asleep without my breathing stopping, but I kept falling asleep after 10-15 seconds and had to keep resetting the stopwatch.. This went on for about half an hour until a burst of irritability and motivation came over me and I said "FUCK THIS" and jumped into the shower spraying freezing cold water on me and slammed a pot of coffee...

    Trying to make the pot of coffee was another interesting adventure; I kept falling asleep while at the sink trying to wash a cup out, and would drop the cup back into a sink full of dirty water and would have to re-wash it again
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    maybe you're not cut out for this lifestyle, it sounds like a lot of work
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    have you ever woke up with your arm completely numb because you were laying in one position all night, too high to wake up and roll over, and then you wake up 15 hours later and say to yourself "Jesus christ, i'm still high"
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    thats so interesting
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    maybe you're not cut out for this lifestyle, it sounds like a lot of work
    trying to stay awake to do those menial tasks was literally the most difficult thing i've had to do in the past 5 years
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plug Drugs View Post
    trying to stay awake to do those menial tasks was literally the most difficult thing i've had to do in the past 5 years
    And you did it to yourself...
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    well i kept thinking to myself "i'm still not content with life, what can i do????? well, i guess i could try taking more drugs..." and this would go on to the point where i literally wasn't able to manage getting a pill in my mouth and swallowing it without dropping it on the floor and it turning in to a half-hour ordeal
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    still not as bad as my uncle; i got over to his house sometimes and pass the time by picking xanax out of his carpet
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    what you need is more interesting things to do when you're high... and if you have to monitor your breathing you're doing too much and overcomplicating things. this shit's supposed to be fun not work
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