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    Quote Originally Posted by Plug Drugs View Post
    To me, the Beatles (especially the songs written by Paul McCartney) sound way too repetitive, simple, and up-beat, like some sort of children's song you'd have to sing during music class in grade school.
    I like the Beatles' more psychedelic songs (strawberry fields forever, I am the walrus, etc) and not-so-coincidentally John Lennon was the main writer for those songs - he was the Beatles' sole source of creativity as far as I'm concerned.One thing I've noticed with a lot of Beatles songs is that they'll have a good sound and style up until the chorus (which was probably written by McCartney) which sounds again like those repetitive up-beat grade-school songs "Mary had a little lamb" and whatnot
    Sounds more like you're comparing early vs later rather than lennon vs mccartney. also, the simple answer is they needed each other. Listen to Lennon's solo records where he's working with yoko instead of paul and you'll understand. if lennon hadn't been part of that team he'd be remembered like fogerty or neil young, not john fucking lennon.

    Anyway, it's fine that you don't like them, but that's completely subjective. Whether or not they are over-hyped is objective, and if anything they are under-hyped considering they influenced every single act that came after them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    Sounds more like you're comparing early vs later rather than lennon vs mccartney. also, the simple answer is they needed each other. Listen to Lennon's solo records where he's working with yoko instead of paul and you'll understand. if lennon hadn't been part of that team he'd be remembered like fogerty or neil young, not john fucking lennon.
    They needed each other may be, but if you took out John Lennon and replaced him with someone else, all the psychedelica would have been gone and The Beatles would have been indistinguishable from the beach boys.

    I can't comment on John Lennon's solo material because I haven't heard enough of it, but I bet it would have sounded a lot better if he did it with a group of peers and not yoko ono. I actually have a John Lennon / Yoko Ono vinyl in a box right next to me, but never listened to it just because of its reputation, should I give it a whirl for educational purposes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plug Drugs View Post
    They needed each other may be, but if you took out John Lennon and replaced him with someone else, all the psychedelica would have been gone and The Beatles would have been indistinguishable from the beach boys.
    That they would have sounded like the beach boys is a bit of a stretch, george harrison was way more psychedelic than lennon they just never let him write anything. in terms of success though, they would have been right there with the beach boys you're right about taht.


    I can't comment on John Lennon's solo material because I haven't heard enough of it, but I bet it would have sounded a lot better if he did it with a group of peers and not yoko ono. I actually have a John Lennon / Yoko Ono vinyl in a box right next to me, but never listened to it just because of its reputation, should I give it a whirl for educational purposes?
    depends on what's on it. watching the wheels is a good example of what I'm talking about. It's a very good song, but it's missing something you can't quite put your finger on, like it's almost dead or something. Paul would have given it what it was missing, either in the writing or in the studio. I'm sure about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by maks View Post
    That they would have sounded like the beach boys is a bit of a stretch, george harrison was way more psychedelic than lennon they just never let him write anything. in terms of success though, they would have been right there with the beach boys you're right about taht.
    I honestly don't know enough about the Beatles to say anything more
    All I know is when I google a song I like by the Beatles, turns out it was written by John Lennon
    When I google a song I think is shit by the Beatles, turns out it was written by McCartney
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody View Post
    You spelled it wrong.
    ccr's better anyway



    Quote Originally Posted by Plug Drugs View Post
    I honestly don't know enough about the Beatles to say anything more
    All I know is when I google a song I like by the Beatles, turns out it was written by John Lennon
    When I google a song I think is shit by the Beatles, turns out it was written by McCartney
    When I google a song I think is shit by the beatles turns out it was written by ringo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody View Post
    I dunno about better, but not as overplayed, skynyrd is a bit overplayed in these here mountains.
    subjectively, imo, etc. I personally would rather listen to CCR how's that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cody View Post
    You got something to say about John Fogerty?
    yes, he's nowhere near as popular or influential as john lennon. they're barely even on the same planet.
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